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		<title>By: Logic Replacement</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-7368</link>
		<dc:creator>Logic Replacement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben Wood has recently started his own fiction story site called Army of Puppets.  It has an interesting &quot;reader&quot; on the site.

http://www.armyofpuppets.com </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben Wood has recently started his own fiction story site called Army of Puppets.  It has an interesting &#8220;reader&#8221; on the site.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.armyofpuppets.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.armyofpuppets.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Bent</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Bent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, correction - Cory Doctorow&#039;s view was short-sighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, correction &#8211; Cory Doctorow&#8217;s view was short-sighted.</p>
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		<title>By: James Bent</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-4436</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this post was incredibly short-sighted.  Two years and a half years later and what are people doing?  Reading long form fiction on a screen.  I was really resistant to saying books are &quot;dead&quot;, but as a mainstream device, I believe they are.  I used to sit on the bus and think &quot;look at how many people are reading books.. how can books be dead?&quot;, but then the other day I realized &quot;yeah, but how many people are surfing the internet, reading papers, reading stories etc... on their mobile phones?&quot;  Lots.

jamesbent.com/blog - daily offbeat (digital) fiction short stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this post was incredibly short-sighted.  Two years and a half years later and what are people doing?  Reading long form fiction on a screen.  I was really resistant to saying books are &#8220;dead&#8221;, but as a mainstream device, I believe they are.  I used to sit on the bus and think &#8220;look at how many people are reading books.. how can books be dead?&#8221;, but then the other day I realized &#8220;yeah, but how many people are surfing the internet, reading papers, reading stories etc&#8230; on their mobile phones?&#8221;  Lots.</p>
<p>jamesbent.com/blog &#8211; daily offbeat (digital) fiction short stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Eftos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eftos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you forget the new technologies / portable devices. online reading in nature will come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you forget the new technologies / portable devices. online reading in nature will come.</p>
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		<title>By: Duke</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-3099</link>
		<dc:creator>Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 02:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>InvitationToVisit:

Oline Novel:  A Mountain Too High by Duke Stevens

  This veteran firefighter knew the count-down to the most unusual rescue of his life began the day he met Ashley
 
http://dukestevensamountaintoohigh.angelcities.com/index.html</description>
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<p>Oline Novel:  A Mountain Too High by Duke Stevens</p>
<p>  This veteran firefighter knew the count-down to the most unusual rescue of his life began the day he met Ashley</p>
<p><a href="http://dukestevensamountaintoohigh.angelcities.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://dukestevensamountaintoohigh.angelcities.com/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: La webredad, el lenguaje de la web &#171; De cómic y otras hierbas</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>La webredad, el lenguaje de la web &#171; De cómic y otras hierbas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] este proyecto). Entonces, en uno de los blogs en inglés a los que estoy suscrito, me encuentro con un interesante artículo acerca del tema. Ganas me entraron de traducirlo al completo, pero la licencia que tiene no me lo permite. Insisto: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] este proyecto). Entonces, en uno de los blogs en inglés a los que estoy suscrito, me encuentro con un interesante artículo acerca del tema. Ganas me entraron de traducirlo al completo, pero la licencia que tiene no me lo permite. Insisto: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the contrary, although it is rare to a a successful online author, good writing finds a way of getting around when it comes to long fiction.  There is a website called fictionpress.com where people post full length fiction stories, and some of the stories on that site have thousands of fans.  The amazing thing is that most of the authors are about 13 years old.

So yeah, there&#039;s a whole market out there that adults aren&#039;t aware of.  When it comes to teens and kids, believe me, there is a HUGE market for YA fiction.  Kids spend tons of time online, right?  Well a lot of them spend it reading other kids&#039; writing.  It&#039;s mind blowing how many young authors are out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the contrary, although it is rare to a a successful online author, good writing finds a way of getting around when it comes to long fiction.  There is a website called fictionpress.com where people post full length fiction stories, and some of the stories on that site have thousands of fans.  The amazing thing is that most of the authors are about 13 years old.</p>
<p>So yeah, there&#8217;s a whole market out there that adults aren&#8217;t aware of.  When it comes to teens and kids, believe me, there is a HUGE market for YA fiction.  Kids spend tons of time online, right?  Well a lot of them spend it reading other kids&#8217; writing.  It&#8217;s mind blowing how many young authors are out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli James</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well joel, that depends on the quality of the story, doesn&#039;t it? I believe both are fun, in the right hands (or nib, if you want to call it that).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well joel, that depends on the quality of the story, doesn&#8217;t it? I believe both are fun, in the right hands (or nib, if you want to call it that).</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Cory. I think it&#039;s fun to read short stories off the web, and I think it&#039;s a great way for authors to get their work out but there&#039;s something even better about holding a book in your hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Cory. I think it&#8217;s fun to read short stories off the web, and I think it&#8217;s a great way for authors to get their work out but there&#8217;s something even better about holding a book in your hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli James</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 11:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello pj.

I find there is plenty of time for the concept to prove itself ... or otherwise. But I still firmly believe in blogs as the perfect medium for posting fiction on the Internet, if only because it gives absolute control over how the text is presented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello pj.</p>
<p>I find there is plenty of time for the concept to prove itself &#8230; or otherwise. But I still firmly believe in blogs as the perfect medium for posting fiction on the Internet, if only because it gives absolute control over how the text is presented.</p>
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		<title>By: pj</title>
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		<dc:creator>pj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 21:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found the site from the article about Ficlets/Portrayl and I&#039;m loving it so far having just started my own writing blog.

Now I&#039;m beginning to rethink the whole &#039;posting short stories&#039; idea.

Oh well, back to the drawing board.. or is that the blank page?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found the site from the article about Ficlets/Portrayl and I&#8217;m loving it so far having just started my own writing blog.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m beginning to rethink the whole &#8216;posting short stories&#8217; idea.</p>
<p>Oh well, back to the drawing board.. or is that the blank page?</p>
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		<title>By: Bookmarked! March 28th.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookmarked! March 28th.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] left me a comment a few days ago, alerting me to the application of the tips I&#8217;ve suggested to make reading [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why you will never get published (through traditional outlets) today</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Why you will never get published (through traditional outlets) today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] very instant). But there&#8217;s still a few kinks with that concept &#8230; and I&#8217;ve already listed down the reasons we probably won&#8217;t read fiction [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] very instant). But there&#8217;s still a few kinks with that concept &#8230; and I&#8217;ve already listed down the reasons we probably won&#8217;t read fiction [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eli James</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting way of presenting fiction online, Richard. As I said, I&#039;ll be keeping a keen eye on undead flowers ... it seems to be coming along &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; nicely. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting way of presenting fiction online, Richard. As I said, I&#8217;ll be keeping a keen eye on undead flowers &#8230; it seems to be coming along <em>very</em> nicely. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the nice comments! The blog&#039;s changed a lot since I started: I used to have tiny print and long, long posts.

These days I have a limit of 350 words per post and I try to take as my model those comic strips you get in newspapers like Doonesbury, The Boondocks (RIP) and Garfield where you have a short, punchy and relatively self-contained piece; but if you read several in a row you see that there&#039;s a larger story at work.

I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve succeeded yet, but I hope I&#039;m getting there.

Oh yes, and I&#039;d avoid the Pilot Episode if I were you--that was my attempt at writing a novel online. It&#039;s waaaaay too long and not very user friendly. And you don&#039;t need to have read it to understand anything from &#039;Season 1&#039; onwards. 

One of these days I&#039;ll probably take it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the nice comments! The blog&#8217;s changed a lot since I started: I used to have tiny print and long, long posts.</p>
<p>These days I have a limit of 350 words per post and I try to take as my model those comic strips you get in newspapers like Doonesbury, The Boondocks (RIP) and Garfield where you have a short, punchy and relatively self-contained piece; but if you read several in a row you see that there&#8217;s a larger story at work.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve succeeded yet, but I hope I&#8217;m getting there.</p>
<p>Oh yes, and I&#8217;d avoid the Pilot Episode if I were you&#8211;that was my attempt at writing a novel online. It&#8217;s waaaaay too long and not very user friendly. And you don&#8217;t need to have read it to understand anything from &#8216;Season 1&#8242; onwards. </p>
<p>One of these days I&#8217;ll probably take it down.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli James</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 07:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Richard. Your blog has readable fonts, is cut into short and consumable bite-sized pieces, and above all looks appetizing (alright, so perhaps I&#039;m starting to make this sound like a dish).

I haven&#039;t started reading it yet, but I&#039;ll bookmark it for future reference. Looks promising enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Richard. Your blog has readable fonts, is cut into short and consumable bite-sized pieces, and above all looks appetizing (alright, so perhaps I&#8217;m starting to make this sound like a dish).</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t started reading it yet, but I&#8217;ll bookmark it for future reference. Looks promising enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 07:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a very interesting post. I&#039;ve learnt much of what you&#039;re saying the hard way with my fiction blog.

I started off trying to write a (somewhat episodic) novel online. It was hard to read, disjointed to write and impossible to retain readers.

It took me a while to realise just how different the presentation of fiction needs to be in order to be relevant and interesting online.

Over the last few months, I&#039;ve tried to implement almost all of your suggestions. It seems to be working. Certainly, I&#039;m getting a heck of a lot more out of it than I was!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a very interesting post. I&#8217;ve learnt much of what you&#8217;re saying the hard way with my fiction blog.</p>
<p>I started off trying to write a (somewhat episodic) novel online. It was hard to read, disjointed to write and impossible to retain readers.</p>
<p>It took me a while to realise just how different the presentation of fiction needs to be in order to be relevant and interesting online.</p>
<p>Over the last few months, I&#8217;ve tried to implement almost all of your suggestions. It seems to be working. Certainly, I&#8217;m getting a heck of a lot more out of it than I was!</p>
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		<title>By: Bookmarked! March 21st</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookmarked! March 21st</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a book Gloria Hildebrandt completed offline but couldn&#8217;t get published. She left me a comment alerting me to the possibility of blooking as a way to get completed novels that aren&#8217;t being [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a book Gloria Hildebrandt completed offline but couldn&#8217;t get published. She left me a comment alerting me to the possibility of blooking as a way to get completed novels that aren&#8217;t being [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Crossfire: All Blooker Prize Winners Are Amateurs</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Crossfire: All Blooker Prize Winners Are Amateurs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Feed          &#8592; Why You Will Never Read Fiction Online [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eli James</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/03/20/why-you-will-never-read-fiction-online/comment-page-1#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Rob, 

You might be right with the fact that office workers &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; resort to reading novellas online for entertainment because videos and music are too obvious (I&#039;m refraining from saying &#039;lol&#039; here ;P). But the fact remains that reading long-form fiction that has not been specifically customized and presented with the web environment in mind is tedious and hard. We may get readers, but more likely than not they&#039;ll go away to check their inbox or to email their friends or to IM thier spouses. So we&#039;re facing problems both with the form (we can&#039;t present our readers with a LONG block of unappealing text, &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; our chapters) and the content, which is more often than not written like the paper novel.

Thanks Gloria for your comment. Now you&#039;ve started the little cogs in my head going round and round again. 

I admit what you&#039;ve suggested hadn&#039;t occured to me while I was writing this post, mainly because I was trying to build upon the points in Cory Doctorow&#039;s essay.

And you know what? I have to agree with everything you&#039;ve said. If a novel has been written &#039;offline&#039; and a lot of sweat and blood and soul has gone into the novel, and it&#039;s not published, then it should be posted online, mainly because there&#039;s nothing to lose.

Brilliant point. I&#039;m going to brood over this and write something on it.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Rob, </p>
<p>You might be right with the fact that office workers <i>will</i> resort to reading novellas online for entertainment because videos and music are too obvious (I&#8217;m refraining from saying &#8216;lol&#8217; here ;P). But the fact remains that reading long-form fiction that has not been specifically customized and presented with the web environment in mind is tedious and hard. We may get readers, but more likely than not they&#8217;ll go away to check their inbox or to email their friends or to IM thier spouses. So we&#8217;re facing problems both with the form (we can&#8217;t present our readers with a LONG block of unappealing text, <b>all</b> our chapters) and the content, which is more often than not written like the paper novel.</p>
<p>Thanks Gloria for your comment. Now you&#8217;ve started the little cogs in my head going round and round again. </p>
<p>I admit what you&#8217;ve suggested hadn&#8217;t occured to me while I was writing this post, mainly because I was trying to build upon the points in Cory Doctorow&#8217;s essay.</p>
<p>And you know what? I have to agree with everything you&#8217;ve said. If a novel has been written &#8216;offline&#8217; and a lot of sweat and blood and soul has gone into the novel, and it&#8217;s not published, then it should be posted online, mainly because there&#8217;s nothing to lose.</p>
<p>Brilliant point. I&#8217;m going to brood over this and write something on it.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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