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		<title>By: J P Smythe&#8217;s Website. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Warmth Of The Tomb.</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-4446</link>
		<dc:creator>J P Smythe&#8217;s Website. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Warmth Of The Tomb.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 10:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - indeed, /fact HQ has been pitifully quiet.  Eli over at Novelr has had some interesting guest posts the last few weeks,   if:book has some stuff on Douglas Coupland&#8217;s new work (which is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; indeed, /fact HQ has been pitifully quiet.  Eli over at Novelr has had some interesting guest posts the last few weeks,   if:book has some stuff on Douglas Coupland&#8217;s new work (which is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-2102</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to get most of my readers not from browsing, but from listings on ebook sites, so self-promotion (or &#039;marketing&#039;) still seems to be relevant. And since my interest is more on the literary side, I&#039;m not sure if the comparison to webcomics applies in my case, but perhaps ...

A good piece which deserves wider attention and debate.

In any case, I intend to keep publishing online and will begin serialising my new F/SF novel CORVUS later this year, and posting short stories as I complete them. How many readers do I need to feel satisfied? Only one, really - myself, and I&#039;m probably my own harshest critic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to get most of my readers not from browsing, but from listings on ebook sites, so self-promotion (or &#8216;marketing&#8217;) still seems to be relevant. And since my interest is more on the literary side, I&#8217;m not sure if the comparison to webcomics applies in my case, but perhaps &#8230;</p>
<p>A good piece which deserves wider attention and debate.</p>
<p>In any case, I intend to keep publishing online and will begin serialising my new F/SF novel CORVUS later this year, and posting short stories as I complete them. How many readers do I need to feel satisfied? Only one, really &#8211; myself, and I&#8217;m probably my own harshest critic.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Hilton</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was blogging about amateurism vs. amateurishness (woo! I think I&#039;ve just invented a new noun!) the other week:

www.billhilton.biz/blog/2007/12/17/amateur-not-amateurish/

Again, the comment I made above bears repeating: you don&#039;t need to worry too much about all the crap out there, because the good stuff finds you. In the case of the video in that post, I found it via Stumbleupon. 

Talking of which, I must stumble this thread - don&#039;t think anyone else has done it yet, and it deserves wider attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was blogging about amateurism vs. amateurishness (woo! I think I&#8217;ve just invented a new noun!) the other week:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.billhilton.biz/blog/2007/12/17/amateur-not-amateurish/" rel="nofollow">http://www.billhilton.biz/blog/2007/12/17/amateur-not-amateurish/</a></p>
<p>Again, the comment I made above bears repeating: you don&#8217;t need to worry too much about all the crap out there, because the good stuff finds you. In the case of the video in that post, I found it via Stumbleupon. </p>
<p>Talking of which, I must stumble this thread &#8211; don&#8217;t think anyone else has done it yet, and it deserves wider attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1478</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandra Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article. I commented on it. I think Eli and anybody else with a blooking site should do the same thing, with their URL attached and a mention (not an advertisement, but a mention) of the capacity in which this topic interests them. 

We need to interject ourselves into the dialogue on &quot;amateurism&quot; and &quot;old media vs. new media&quot; every chance we get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. I commented on it. I think Eli and anybody else with a blooking site should do the same thing, with their URL attached and a mention (not an advertisement, but a mention) of the capacity in which this topic interests them. </p>
<p>We need to interject ourselves into the dialogue on &#8220;amateurism&#8221; and &#8220;old media vs. new media&#8221; every chance we get.</p>
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		<title>By: Tinstaafl</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1477</link>
		<dc:creator>Tinstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this article today too.

http://reason.com/news/show/123523.html

much like AEs, but hers is better.

Tins...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this article today too.</p>
<p><a href="http://reason.com/news/show/123523.html" rel="nofollow">http://reason.com/news/show/123523.html</a></p>
<p>much like AEs, but hers is better.</p>
<p>Tins&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laural</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1475</link>
		<dc:creator>Laural</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see it more like music; there&#039;s so much of it produced I have to rely on a few blogs to link to a few mp3s of genres I like. Some of it is truly indie (web-produced), some is small label, some is big label.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see it more like music; there&#8217;s so much of it produced I have to rely on a few blogs to link to a few mp3s of genres I like. Some of it is truly indie (web-produced), some is small label, some is big label.</p>
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		<title>By: wincing.at.light</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1470</link>
		<dc:creator>wincing.at.light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that link to POD-dy Mouth, Windvein.  It&#039;s a shame to see that she&#039;s no longer updating that blog (though I can understand why she stopped given the work involved).

Definitely a cool couple of hours of my life invested in reading that site, though.  Thanks for pointing it out. :)

Speaking of cool links, do we have Eli to thank for the wikipedia update?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blook

(And yeah, don&#039;t think that now I&#039;ve been cited as a Wikipedia &quot;External Link&quot; expert that I won&#039;t use that to win arguments with my wife.  &quot;Of course I&#039;m right, dear.  I&#039;m an EXPERT!!!&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that link to POD-dy Mouth, Windvein.  It&#8217;s a shame to see that she&#8217;s no longer updating that blog (though I can understand why she stopped given the work involved).</p>
<p>Definitely a cool couple of hours of my life invested in reading that site, though.  Thanks for pointing it out. :)</p>
<p>Speaking of cool links, do we have Eli to thank for the wikipedia update?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blook" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blook</a></p>
<p>(And yeah, don&#8217;t think that now I&#8217;ve been cited as a Wikipedia &#8220;External Link&#8221; expert that I won&#8217;t use that to win arguments with my wife.  &#8220;Of course I&#8217;m right, dear.  I&#8217;m an EXPERT!!!&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Hilton</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1467</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eli: Same principle, I guess - it came to you rather than you looking for something in that approximate genre and, as a result, finding it. The reason it came to you was that it was of a sufficiently high quality that other people felt moved to spread the word about it.

At any rate, I suppose the point I&#039;m trying to make, tying in with Lexy&#039;s, is that if we write surpassingly good stories then we don&#039;t have to worry too much about them getting lost among the dross, because word will get around. 

That&#039;s not to say we can afford to avoid marketing altogether, of course (that&#039;s the copywriter in me talking...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eli: Same principle, I guess &#8211; it came to you rather than you looking for something in that approximate genre and, as a result, finding it. The reason it came to you was that it was of a sufficiently high quality that other people felt moved to spread the word about it.</p>
<p>At any rate, I suppose the point I&#8217;m trying to make, tying in with Lexy&#8217;s, is that if we write surpassingly good stories then we don&#8217;t have to worry too much about them getting lost among the dross, because word will get around. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say we can afford to avoid marketing altogether, of course (that&#8217;s the copywriter in me talking&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Eli James</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1466</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill: I found xkcd because people in forums put up episodes and linked to the webcomic. To make a point, you know - like in a discussion about centrifugal force they put up a strip of xkcd making fun of high school teachers who say it doesn&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill: I found xkcd because people in forums put up episodes and linked to the webcomic. To make a point, you know &#8211; like in a discussion about centrifugal force they put up a strip of xkcd making fun of high school teachers who say it doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Hilton</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1465</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s perhaps worth bearing in mind that people don&#039;t necessarily find webcomics (to take an example) as a result of a deliberate search. Often, webcomics &quot;find&quot; their readers as a result of word-of-mouth/viral spread.

For example, I read xkcd. I first discovered it via a feed on a friend&#039;s Facebook profile - I wasn&#039;t particularly looking for a new webcomic to read at the time, but I saw it, liked it, and have read it ever since.

In this viral model - content comes to you, you don&#039;t necessarily go looking for it - no active filtering has to take place. Good material gets evangelised, weak material doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s perhaps worth bearing in mind that people don&#8217;t necessarily find webcomics (to take an example) as a result of a deliberate search. Often, webcomics &#8220;find&#8221; their readers as a result of word-of-mouth/viral spread.</p>
<p>For example, I read xkcd. I first discovered it via a feed on a friend&#8217;s Facebook profile &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t particularly looking for a new webcomic to read at the time, but I saw it, liked it, and have read it ever since.</p>
<p>In this viral model &#8211; content comes to you, you don&#8217;t necessarily go looking for it &#8211; no active filtering has to take place. Good material gets evangelised, weak material doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli James</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1464</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve won me over, Lexy. 

There is one point you missed about a minimum entry bar, though: mediums with editors do help a writer who is &lt;em&gt;learning&lt;/em&gt; the craft ... if the editors deign to give a personal note or two, that is.

I&#039;m quite sure a great number of authors honed their skills through magazine submissions. The same &#039;conducive&#039; environment might not exist on the Internet. However, like you&#039;ve already pointed out - the Internet suddenly seems like a cheery place for those of us who want an audience (and who aren&#039;t in this for learning)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve won me over, Lexy. </p>
<p>There is one point you missed about a minimum entry bar, though: mediums with editors do help a writer who is <em>learning</em> the craft &#8230; if the editors deign to give a personal note or two, that is.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite sure a great number of authors honed their skills through magazine submissions. The same &#8216;conducive&#8217; environment might not exist on the Internet. However, like you&#8217;ve already pointed out &#8211; the Internet suddenly seems like a cheery place for those of us who want an audience (and who aren&#8217;t in this for learning)</p>
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		<title>By: Sebatinsky</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1459</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebatinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree.

I read webcomics and web fiction in exactly the way you describe; I don&#039;t have anyone to filter out the drivel (my word of choice), and I get along fine.

Of course, I&#039;m always excited when I come across any site with new stuff for me to read, especially when there&#039;s a lot of it. That, of course, is why I&#039;m such a strong supporter of Pages Unbound. While I&#039;m going to continue to search for all the out of the way stuff that nobody&#039;s really seen, PU will be opening up far more stories to the reading public.

Really, it works for everyone. Although, I did notice a story that I&#039;ve been planning on reviewing signed up on PU recently. I&#039;ll review it anyway, but I&#039;ll feel less like I&#039;ve opened up something new to people, since I&#039;m betting that most of my readers have gone by PU at some point, or do so regularly.

Anyway, I got a little off topic, but, I think that filters are largely unnecessary, with the important exception of voluntary filters. That&#039;s what reviewers and, more importantly, friends, are for.

I also agree with Hel that the publishing industry isn&#039;t actually particularly effective at filtering for quality either. Yes, they set a technical bar, but not a literary one.

Good article, Lexy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree.</p>
<p>I read webcomics and web fiction in exactly the way you describe; I don&#8217;t have anyone to filter out the drivel (my word of choice), and I get along fine.</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m always excited when I come across any site with new stuff for me to read, especially when there&#8217;s a lot of it. That, of course, is why I&#8217;m such a strong supporter of Pages Unbound. While I&#8217;m going to continue to search for all the out of the way stuff that nobody&#8217;s really seen, PU will be opening up far more stories to the reading public.</p>
<p>Really, it works for everyone. Although, I did notice a story that I&#8217;ve been planning on reviewing signed up on PU recently. I&#8217;ll review it anyway, but I&#8217;ll feel less like I&#8217;ve opened up something new to people, since I&#8217;m betting that most of my readers have gone by PU at some point, or do so regularly.</p>
<p>Anyway, I got a little off topic, but, I think that filters are largely unnecessary, with the important exception of voluntary filters. That&#8217;s what reviewers and, more importantly, friends, are for.</p>
<p>I also agree with Hel that the publishing industry isn&#8217;t actually particularly effective at filtering for quality either. Yes, they set a technical bar, but not a literary one.</p>
<p>Good article, Lexy.</p>
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		<title>By: Windvein</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1458</link>
		<dc:creator>Windvein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is a really great article. 

I admit I&#039;d bemoaned the lack of review sites for web fiction, but I think that&#039;s more for the possible exposure than anything else.  Your point about &quot;the public awareness of what we are doing is so low that even the crappiest of crappy stories effectively raises our profile as a whole,&quot; is a perspective I hadn&#039;t considered and now feel is very valid.  (But I remember POD-dy Mouth http://girlondemand.blogspot.com/ She sadly no longer reviews POD&#039;s, but one review from her seemed to catapult authors. I don&#039;t know if something similiar could be done for web fiction, but someone like that would be nice in our field.) 

Your observation about knitters and chrocheters was a surprise. My mother is a chrocheter but a technophobe. I&#039;d never thought about web savvy crafters being a web fiction readers b/c of the hands-free aspect. Very cool.

I do hope you&#039;ll write that article concerning putting web fiction &quot;in the path of &#039;casual clicks&#039;.&quot; I know I&#039;d learn some interesting things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is a really great article. </p>
<p>I admit I&#8217;d bemoaned the lack of review sites for web fiction, but I think that&#8217;s more for the possible exposure than anything else.  Your point about &#8220;the public awareness of what we are doing is so low that even the crappiest of crappy stories effectively raises our profile as a whole,&#8221; is a perspective I hadn&#8217;t considered and now feel is very valid.  (But I remember POD-dy Mouth <a href="http://girlondemand.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://girlondemand.blogspot.com/</a> She sadly no longer reviews POD&#8217;s, but one review from her seemed to catapult authors. I don&#8217;t know if something similiar could be done for web fiction, but someone like that would be nice in our field.) </p>
<p>Your observation about knitters and chrocheters was a surprise. My mother is a chrocheter but a technophobe. I&#8217;d never thought about web savvy crafters being a web fiction readers b/c of the hands-free aspect. Very cool.</p>
<p>I do hope you&#8217;ll write that article concerning putting web fiction &#8220;in the path of &#8216;casual clicks&#8217;.&#8221; I know I&#8217;d learn some interesting things.</p>
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		<title>By: Tinstaafl</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1457</link>
		<dc:creator>Tinstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 02:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again proving that you AE have a Stream of Consciousness  with the Out Put of a High Pressure Fire Hose... Lots of Output with Pinpoint Accuracy.  That is a Good Thing BTW.

Keep it up.

Tins...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again proving that you AE have a Stream of Consciousness  with the Out Put of a High Pressure Fire Hose&#8230; Lots of Output with Pinpoint Accuracy.  That is a Good Thing BTW.</p>
<p>Keep it up.</p>
<p>Tins&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1453</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandra Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hel: Very true. I tried to limit the amount of potshots I took at the publishing industry in this post (as I have my own platform for doing that!), but the fact is that publishers do not select for quality so much as for marketability... yeah, quality is part of the equation and so there is very generally speaking a minimum level of technical quality you can expect from a book on a shelf, but it really is a bare minimum. 

It&#039;s like fast food: you can go to any town in the country and order a burger at McDonald&#039;s and know what you&#039;re getting. It doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s great. It just means you know what to expect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hel: Very true. I tried to limit the amount of potshots I took at the publishing industry in this post (as I have my own platform for doing that!), but the fact is that publishers do not select for quality so much as for marketability&#8230; yeah, quality is part of the equation and so there is very generally speaking a minimum level of technical quality you can expect from a book on a shelf, but it really is a bare minimum. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like fast food: you can go to any town in the country and order a burger at McDonald&#8217;s and know what you&#8217;re getting. It doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s great. It just means you know what to expect.</p>
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		<title>By: Hel</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1452</link>
		<dc:creator>Hel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you make a really good point here Alex, in the comparison to webcomics. The situations are, from the pov of a reader like me, very similar. I never read print comics anymore. I have several hundred webcomics I check in any given week, bookmarked by day the comic updates, and I get emails from a comics.com and other sites with my favorite print comics, which which I pay a small yearly fee. I almost never read dead tree books anymore either. I read ebooks, and online literature (Like Tales of MU). All of these people crying out about how the traditional publishing industry filters out dross clearly don&#039;t read the majority of what actually gets published these days. The vast quantity of what gets published is, at best, formulaic and as similar as possible to last year&#039;s big bestsellers as it can be, without being outright plagiarism. The traditional publishing industry puts out very little that is new and revolutionary, because it has no incentive to take a chance on an unknown. When what will sell is &#039;known&#039;, why bother spending time, money, and other resources on something unknown?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you make a really good point here Alex, in the comparison to webcomics. The situations are, from the pov of a reader like me, very similar. I never read print comics anymore. I have several hundred webcomics I check in any given week, bookmarked by day the comic updates, and I get emails from a comics.com and other sites with my favorite print comics, which which I pay a small yearly fee. I almost never read dead tree books anymore either. I read ebooks, and online literature (Like Tales of MU). All of these people crying out about how the traditional publishing industry filters out dross clearly don&#8217;t read the majority of what actually gets published these days. The vast quantity of what gets published is, at best, formulaic and as similar as possible to last year&#8217;s big bestsellers as it can be, without being outright plagiarism. The traditional publishing industry puts out very little that is new and revolutionary, because it has no incentive to take a chance on an unknown. When what will sell is &#8216;known&#8217;, why bother spending time, money, and other resources on something unknown?</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article, really insightful... :P (I&#039;m actually just commenting so I can subscribe to the thread.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article, really insightful&#8230; :P (I&#8217;m actually just commenting so I can subscribe to the thread.)</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh Monkeys and Usual Nuts &#187; Guest post on Novelr.</title>
		<link>http://www.novelr.com/2007/12/28/filter-shmilter/comment-page-1#comment-1445</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh Monkeys and Usual Nuts &#187; Guest post on Novelr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as people in the traditional publishing industry, I submitted my thoughts on the subject as a guest post on Novelr.  posted by Lexy at 2:23 pm  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as people in the traditional publishing industry, I submitted my thoughts on the subject as a guest post on Novelr.  posted by Lexy at 2:23 pm  [...]</p>
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